What does the talmud teach us about jesus the christ and the virgin mary. The identification of yeshu as jesus is problematic. The talmud on the death of jesus the shalom center. My understanding is that this suggestion was first made by celsus, a greek philosopher from the 2nd century ce. The name used in the talmud is yeshu, the aramaic vocalization though not spelling of the hebrew name yeshua. Yeshu is the student of joshua ben perachiah, a rabbi who is said to have fled with.
The most explicit jesus passages in the bavli babylonian talmud date back, at the. The central personage of christianity is called jesus christ, but this is not his birth name, it is an acquired title. Yeshua ben pandira mentioned in sanhedrin 67a of the talmud 1. In a famous passage in the talmud, jesus is presented as a brilliant student, who is wrongly pushed away by rabbi joshua ben perachia cf. Yeshu the pharisee student is described as being a student of the secondcentury bce. It is tradition that rabbi eliezer said to the wise, did not ben stada bring spells from egypt in a cut which was upon his flesh. Yeshu ben stada, or jesus, son of stada, is known in jewish tradition to be the. Pandira, but there is good evidence that these are pseudonyms for jesus in such passages. Yeshua and talmud why did they write of him if he did not exist. Full text of toledot yeshu the life story of jesus revisited see other formats. A point of assemblage yeshu ben pantera or yeshua ben yosef.
Jesus in the rabbinical literature israel my glory. See in general jacob neusner, eliezer ben hyrcanus. Yeshu ha nozri talmud shabbat 107b, sotah 47a vii quando giovanni ircano viii uccideva i rabbi, rabbi yehoshua ben perachiah e yeshu fuggirono ad alessandria degitto. Should the talmud be used as a crossreference to the new testament. Full text of toledot yeshu the life story of jesus. Author tony bushby, primarily working from rather spurious and convoluted jewish sources such as the talmud and toldoth jeshu or life of jesus, is convinced that pauls hero is based on a legitimate historical rebel leader known as judas khrestus and on his twin yeshua ben panthera.
About 177 ad the greek philosopher celsus, in his book the true word, expressed what appears to have been the consensus jewish opinion about jesus, that his father was a roman soldier called pantera. The jewish scribes claim the talmud is partly a collection of traditions moses gave them in oral form. We offer the pdf version here at windowview in both a light version. Jesus, son of pantera the gospel according to the romans. Back at the start of the year, i made a very brief reference to the claim that the true father of jesus was a roman soldier named pantera, pandera, or panthera.
Sendo assim, analisamos o personagem yeshu ben pandera jesus filho. The toledot yeshu is not part of this investigation. Quando vi fu pace, rabbi shimeon ben shetach mando a chiamarli. The specific quotations can be found in the only complete english translation, the soncino talmud, published by soncino press in great britain. However in shabbat 104b and sanhedrin 67a in the babylonian talmud, a passage is found that some have interpreted as equating ben pandera with ben stada. Jesus ben pandira, the historical christ philaletheians.
The venice edition of the jerusalem talmud contains the name yeshu, but the leiden manuscript has a name deleted, and yeshu added in a marginal gloss. Yeshu the sorcerer was executed by the royal government which lost legal authority in 63 bc. A well known jewish prediction is that the messiah will be from the line of king david. His heretical and idolatrous teachings lasted centuries after his life but, like so many jewish sects, slowly died out after the destruction of the temple. Although commonly thought of as being medieval, some versions of toledot yeshu may go back to late antiquity. The talmud s references to jesus are only to yeshua ben pandera of 100 years earlier, and the fact that there are no references to the figures in the nt writings seems to be a strong indication that the jesus messiah figure and other disciplefigures of the nt written about did not exist as described in the nt. Download the bible, the holy quran, the mahabharata and thousands of free pdf ebooks on buddhism, meditation etc.
The jesus omissions began to be restored in the last century, bayme said. Many jews and christians have traditionally assumed that the term yeshu in the talmud and tosefta refers to jesus. Please name one secular 1st century historian besides. The real story of jesus is the story of yeshu ben pantera and miriam ben stada his mother miriam the hairdresser who adulterous affair with joseph ben pantera, a roman mercenary, produced yeshu who learned magic arts in egypt and led many astray according to the talmud where one can find this information so carefully hidden away from gentile. Um chamado yeshu ben stada e outro yeshu ben pandira. The antigospel of yeshu the magician but peter and the apostles answered, we must obey god rather than men.
Yeshu, y eshu hanotzri, ben stada, ben pandera, etc. Christ condemned the traditions of the mishnah early talmud and those who taught it scribes and pharisees, because the talmud nullifies the teachings of the holy bible. Davidic interpretation, thus opening a pandoras box of inauthentic doctrines like the. However, jesus was crucified on the day of passover. Babylonian talmud some texts that refer to jesus and his followers. What does the talmud teach us about jesus the christ and. The rabbinic antigospel in the context of the polemic. The actual name of jesus occurs only occasionally in the rabbinical literature, usually in the form yeshu or yeshu hanotsri the nazarene. Pantera means panther and was a fairly common name among roman soldiers. Asher ben jehiel also asserted that the yeshu of the talmud is unrelated to the christian jesus. There is strong evidence from the talmud, the toledot yeshu, epiphanius and. Yeshu was different because he was close to the government. Gideon bohak, department of hebrew culture studies, tau jesus and judaism in the first centuries ce, tel aviv university, 6. The yeshu mentioned in the talmud was a student of rabbi yehoshua ben perachiah who lived in the first century bce.
Thus, the original use of this term is as an honorific title, such as rabbi. Yeshu ben stada was the illegitimate son of a woman originally named miriam bat bilgah who committed adultery with a roman soldier. For example, the talmud mentions yeshu ben panderaben stadas stepfather, pappos ben yehuda, speaking with rabbi akiva, who was executed at the. For example, the talmud mentions yeshu ben pandera ben stadas stepfather, pappos ben yehuda, speaking with rabbi akiva. Thus, the yeshu in this passage of the talmud cannot be jesus who lived in the first century ce. The name stada in aramaic comes from sta da she deviated. The toledot yeshu, or toledot jeschu, was first translated into english by. When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, i will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and i will establish his kingdom.
The talmudic character yeshua ben pandera is fictional. The name jesus is derived from an aramaic ancient hebrew word, yeshua, which means savior. I had the feeling that somehow the wrong questions were asked, or rather that the chimera of a rationalistic and positivistic historicity was evoked, almost as if to evade the real questions. When later talmudic rabbis debated these names, they concluded that the same person was called both ben stada and ben pandira because one was the name of his mothers husband and the other was.
Yoma 85b then shall he answer them, saying, verily i say unto you, inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. The first, yeshu ben pandira, started his own sect and had many followers. The babylonian talmud relates the following biography of one of. And the passages re now included in most of the new printings of the talmud,said yisrael shaw of daf yomi discussions, an online talmud service. Pdf embora o talmude reproduza apenas breves mencoes ofensivas sobre jesus yeshu, yeshu hanotzri, ben stada, ben pandera, etc. The second, ben stada, was simply a public idolater from an illustrious family who was caught and punished. According to the talmud, simon ben shetach was a nasi, or prince of the sanhedrian, jerusalems supreme court in 90 b.
Khensu is a hawkheaded divinity, and as a form of heru, he is the. The references to notzrim in the babylonian talmud are related to the meaning and person of yeshu ha notzri jesus the nazarene in the talmud and tosefta. Yeshua and talmud why did they write of him if he did. It is also referred to in the talmud and the antigospel toledot yeshu, both being from the middl.
The talmud ben stada jesus stories another figure mentioned in the talmud is yeshu ben stada, possibly the same person as ben pandera. Pdf the hostile mentions about jesus yeshua in babilonian talmud find, read and cite all the research you need on researchgate. Even today the standard vilna edition of the talmud omits any discussion about eshu,jesus in hebrew. There are several passages in the talmud which are believed by some scholars to be references to jesus. Yeshu is the name of an individual or individuals mentioned in rabbinic literature, which. In contrast, sages of jewish wisdom schools like jesus bensirach wrote. The book of the life of jesus in hebrew sefer toledot yeshu presents a. The rumor is repeated in the talmud and in medieval jewish writings where jesus is referred to as yeshu ben pantera.
Since both of these texts appear to use the designation yeshu ben pantera in a descriptive rather than a slanderous or polemical way they offer us evidence that jesus was remembered as son of pantera in the region of galilee, and even on the streets of sepphoris, in the early 2nd century. In these retellings, jesus apostasy was not a foregone conclusion. The claim originates in jewish antichristian lore and first appears in the historical record in origens contra celsus 1. Jesus ben pandira, the historical christ jesus ben pandira, the historical christ v. Pdf the kabbalistic words of jesus in the gospel of thomas.
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